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mgarbowski

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Can someone who understands college football better than me (which is most everyone) explain something to me? In reading about the Alabama-LSU game, I see many references to this being important because until now Alabama's schedule was weak. They only played one ranked team - #22 Tex A&M. Fair enough. But why does nobody criticize Clemson's schedule? In fact, I have been reading that Clemson has one of the toughest schedules in the country. Yet they will finish the season with no games against a Top 10 team, and have only played #16 NC State and have #22 BC upcoming. I do not doubt that Clemson is good, but isn't their schedule just a bunch of cupcakes? It certainly does not seem tougher than Alabama's schedule.
 

bnoble

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I confess I'm not really paying close attention to the national landscape. I figure it will work itself out, or it won't. I'll be good either way.

Speaking of good: went to the Penn State/Michigan game yesterday. I have to admit I did not expect that. At all. One very cool moment: both bands did the halftime show together. I don't think I'd ever seen that before, and it was neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1B2Gk0kD7c
 

mgarbowski

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I confess I'm not really paying close attention to the national landscape. I figure it will work itself out, or it won't. I'll be good either way.

Speaking of good: went to the Penn State/Michigan game yesterday. I have to admit I did not expect that. At all. One very cool moment: both bands did the halftime show together. I don't think I'd ever seen that before, and it was neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1B2Gk0kD7c

Thanks for the video link. My daughter told me the bands played together and sent a photo of the dragon image.

On the ranking/schedule issue I' just trying to become more intelligent about it. Pretty much everyone agrees Alabama and Clemson are 1 and 2, including neutrals and fans of the teams closest to them but behind. I don't know enough to disagree with that. Still, the Alabama/Clemson schedule comparison does gnaw at me a little, but I'm not losing sleep either.
 

Not That Josh

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^ I think a lot of what you are talking about can vary from one source to another. I remember a couple of weeks ago, one analyst said Clemson was done with tough games and had an easy run to the end of the season. I tend to not take the analysis too seriously because there is at least some guessing involved.
 

Strangeite

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My Kentucky Wildcats are being projected to play in the Citrus Bowl this year (would be the best bowl game in probably 75 years).

Unfortunately, I am no position to travel to Orlando right now. :RpS_thumbdn:

Now if all of my friends and family would stop bugging me to go to the Disney and the game that week.
 

bnoble

he's right
Not football, but...

Am at Ohio State for a synchronized swimming meet. My daughter swims for Michigan. A warm welcome here in C'bus, as always....

IMG_4493.jpg
 

bnoble

he's right
I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.

Ugh. And later Cal will be disemboweled in Seattle.

(And Fox can boil in a cauldron of oil for the incessant Full Media Timeouts we sat through.)
 

bnoble

he's right
I woke up this morning to...a Cal win? Game finished at 4:30 AM due to weather, I guess. Late enough that none of the highlight shows had any highlights, including the Pac 12 Network recap show.
 

mgarbowski

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I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.
I will not schedule service academies.
Based on what I have seen to date, Michigan has issues that go beyond being mostly outplayed by an Army team that has shown itself to be well capable of punching up over the past 2-3 years. Some are mistakes that can, in theory, be reduced, but IDK how much you can improve run and pass blocking week to week. Wasn't the O-line supposed to be a strength?
 

bnoble

he's right
Oh, I don't have any illusions that this team is where I'd like it to be. I just never ever want to play a service academy again. This happens every. time.
 

BDUB32

Member
Texas vs LSU - both sides bickering over who is the "real DBU (defensive back university)," gave up a combined 872 yards passing (471 by Burrows of LSU, 401 by Ehlinger of Texas).

My Horns came out on the losing end, too. Tough one to swallow, but very entertaining game.
 

3dadknight

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Texas vs LSU - both sides bickering over who is the "real DBU (defensive back university)," gave up a combined 872 yards passing (471 by Burrows of LSU, 401 by Ehlinger of Texas).

My Horns came out on the losing end, too. Tough one to swallow, but very entertaining game.
As a Tiger fan, I’m just happy that we don’t have to rely on the DBU moniker to stay in a game. We finally have an offense that can keep up in a shootout. I agree, though, that regardless of the outcome, it was a very entertaining game.
 

bnoble

he's right
Nothing cures what ails a football team like a good dose of Rutgers---for a week, anyway.

More topically: the halftime show this week was Mary Poppins. Penguins included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr3V7kYGxmY

This may also be the last year we can meet the kids after halftime to buy them lunch. The elder is a senior this year, is applying to PhD programs, and Michigan is not going to be one of them...
 

Not That Josh

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Notre Dame's AD thinks there should be no football without fans. I understand the idea, but I wonder what would happen if the conferences or the NCAA disagreed.

How would they handle a team that says they won't play?
 

paxsarah

Active member
I think the only way they could possibly have football this year is without fans. I don't see how anyone can justify packing 100,000 people into a stadium (or 50,000, or 30,000, or even 10,000) by fall.
 

bnoble

he's right
I think there is no chance that any major athletics contest happens with fans through at least summer 2021 (and that includes the Olympics).

As for how to handle it: the Power 5+ND have their own governance structure within the NCAA, so my guess is that they will settle it amongst themselves. It will be interesting to see how much TV money is guaranteed even if games are not played; more guaranteed money will make it easier to cancel the season. Almost all revenue for an entire athletic department comes from football, between TV rights and game day revenue, and the former is probably much more important than the latter, even for a team that sells out 100K seats each game. If U-M averaged $100/seat/game in revenue between mandatory donations and ticket sales (and that's probably way too high; the students have about 20% of the stadium, and pay less than half that) the total admissions take is about $70M, which is less than half of the total athletics department budget of ~$190M. U-M recorded expenses about $1M below revenues last year. I don't know how much more they can cut from expenses. Even if the attendance figure is high, and the excess revenue is low, it will take many years to make up for the losses. And U-M is lucky in that it's one of the dozen or so programs that isn't already subsidized by the other units of the University.

That said, I very much hope U-M does not play this year. The students are already taken advantage of in the current structure. Asking them to play under the circumstances that e.g. baseball is considering (complete isolation from family and friends during the season) is going WAY too far. A part of me hopes that this is the beginning of the end of big-money college athletics, but I recognize that's a pipe dream.
 
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